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Sodini
By Jeff Fecke | August 6, 2009
I have a long post on him that I’m about halfway done with. Suffice to say that it is now clear Sodini was a Nice Guy®‘s Nice Guy®, the kind of guy who believes that the hot chicks of the world owe it to him to sleep with him, because he’s so dang nice. And when they wouldn’t, he decided to kill some of them, because, evidently, of his niceness.
That the MRAs and PUAs have embraced George Sodini shouldn’t come as a surprise; his hatred of women mirrors their own, and his lament that women would not sleep with him — check that, hot women would not sleep with him — gains a sympathetic hearing from them, as men are owed the sexual services of 19-year-old models. That 19-year-old models generally are more into other 19-year-old models than 40-something former alcoholics with goofy mustaches is beside the point; who cares what women find attractive, anyhow? They’re supposed to put out for the Nice Guy®. Because he’s nice, and so that he doesn’t gun them down in a gym someday.
Needless to say, Sodini was spending his money on the PUA circuit, trying to find a way to trick pretty young things into sleeping with him, rather than going out and meeting women who actually might be interested in sleeping with him, women who were his age, women who actually might have found him attractive. But I rather suspect that even they would have blanched in the end. Because what was fundamentally unattractive about Sodoni was not his age or his goofy mustache or the fact that he was in recovery. It was the fact that he hated women, despised them to his very core, and that he viewed most of them as utterly disposable, and only a few — those of the “right” age, the “right” weight, the “right” level of attractiveness — as worthy of laying on the bed and letting him hump them.
The reason Nice Guys® don’t get women is because, for the eleventy billionth time, Nice Guys® are not nice guys. They’re amoral predators who view women not as fellow humans, but as jizz rags. No truly nice guy, no matter how lonely, no matter how hurt, could go into a gym and kill people. No truly nice guy could applaud such an horrific act. The fact that the MRAs and PUAs are doing so tells you everything you need to know about their movement.
Topics: Crime, Feminism, Nice Guys®, The Men's Rights Movement | 6 Comments »
August 6th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Yes. Thank you Jeff.
August 6th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Right on, Jeff.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:29 am
One thing I’m enjoying is watching you try to parse out the difference between a “one night stand partner” and a sex object. When you’re having a one night stand with someone, it seems to me you don’t have a whole lot of credibility to say that you are doing it because you thought you had some sort of “connection” with someone. By definition, a one night stand is a shallow act, in which both parties use each other for sexual purposes. Why then must you paint one party’s intentions as noble and straightforward, and the other’s as sneaky and underhanded?
The hook-up culture is what produced this guy, not a vast undercurrent of pervasive misogyny and political rhetoric. In this culture we are literally saturated with sexual messages — even those portrayed as empowering. Can’t you see that one-night-stands are themselves what stand opposed to a meaningful connection? If we had a little more modesty in this culture, and a little more sexual discretion, there absolutely would be more respect between the sexes. And maybe in that world, a guy like Sodini would have found his place and established some meaningful connection with someone — perhaps a male buddy (in case you didn’t notice, he complained about being isolated from friends too, not just women).
One other observation, unrelated to Jeff’s post (since I did notice that he commented over at Pandagon). I am astounded at the undercurrent of sexual validation among women that I am seeing in the commenters over at that blog. Suddenly — because this one guy went postal — these ladies think that every man wants to be their boyfriend.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:25 am
in case you didn’t notice, he complained about being isolated from friends too, not just women
And yet he targeted women; why is that? Why not go after the guys who weren’t his friend?
Also, please follow the link, John. Unless antimisandry.com is suddenly just part of the hook-up culture, there sure seem to be a lot of MRA/PUA folk cheering this guy on.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:51 am
I know all about antimisandry.com. They do have some characters over there, and to whatever extent they validate (or seem to validate) his actions, they’re doing their own cause a tremendous disservice. Unlike you, however, I don’t ascribe misogyny to an entire movement just because it stands against misandry, or just because there are a few bad apples that shoot their mouths off. You yourself, and your ilk, have also done the same thing in spades.
I also don’t imply that MRAs and PUAs motivated him to kill women, as you do. Sodini is responsible for his own actions.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:05 am
In my last comment I forgot to answer your question, “And yet he targeted women; why is that? Why not go after the guys who weren’t his friend?”
He went after women rather than men because he resented and hated them. They had sexually rejected him, and he projected his failure with them onto women as a whole. That much is pretty clear.
But try to think a little more deeply about it. Is the intense need to have indiscriminate sex with people socially contrived? I think that it is. We even get socially conditioned to think that lack of a normal girlfriend/boyfriend relationship makes one a loser. If he had just had some relationships in his life, I bet he wouldn’t have lashed out like this. I’m not blaming anyone for his actions, nor any movement. But I absolutely am convinced that he wouldn’t have killed anyone — women in particular — if he had had some healthy male relationships.